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for article Kurdistan (rojname)

We have to provide sources with neutral point of views. According to provided sources, Kurdistan was the written with Turkish and Kurdish languages. And it was the first newspaper which was published by Kurds. But unfortunately some of Kurdish ethnocentrists (as long as I understand Karber:Xosere and Karber:Gomada) cannot accept those reliable sources and deformed by their own ethnocentric POVs. Takabeg (mesac) 08:35, 23 Nisane 2013 (UTC)

Learn Zazaki please and dont copy-paste into articles for your propaganda. There is already mention of ottoman turkish in article, but you deformed articles as you wanted. You fill articles with duplications as you did in article of Celadet Alî Bedirxan. This is not a game-zone! And people are bored of your same claims, in each project you blame people as ethnocentrics or nationalist. Before you do that, open your eyes and see your mistakes!—Gomadapeyam 09:13, 23 Nisane 2013 (UTC)
The newspaper is not written in Turkish. But it is written in Ottoman language. The article refers to that. Yes it is not refereed in the first sentence. But it is in the article. --Xosere (mesac) 09:07, 23 Nisane 2013 (UTC)
Sayin "takabeg", bu ne demekdir anlatirmisin? "Birde Karber:Belekvor ve Karber:Xosere hayatta mı ?" Yanî hayatdami? Ölü degiller evet, tehditmi??? --Alsace38 (mesac) 16:50, 29 Nisane 2013 (UTC)

Wikidata phase 2 (infoboxes) is here

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Proposal for the removal of sysop access of Karber:Xosere

Reydayiş: 24 Nisane 2013 - 25 Hezirane 2013

Karber:Xosere blocked my account. However, as you know (possibly you don't know policies) Karber:Xosere don't have any rights to block my account because of en:WP:INVOLVED at Kurdistan (rojname). I only pointed out Kurdish ethnocentric POV pushing fake edits by some users (including Karber:Xosere) at Werênayış:Kurdistan (rojname) and neutralized article according to provided sources. You and some users deformed article by their own ethnic POVs. You must read en:Wikipedia:Neutral point of views and must stop Kurdish ethnocentric biased edits. This user doesn't know policy and not neutral, not fair. Takabeg (mesac) 19:32, 24 Nisane 2013 (UTC)

you are making every where this provocations, you delete everybodies contributions like you done in turkish pedia, no kurd can contribute in turkish because you block them every time! --Alsace38 (mesac) 16:52, 29 Nisane 2013 (UTC)
How old are you Mirzali? Take a rest for 5 minutes and look what you are doing. There is no need to waste time with you both! You both turned this project a game-zone.Congratulations(!)—Gomadapeyam 08:14, 25 Nisane 2013 (UTC)
I think you have a short term memory. It seems you have forgotten your intrigues against me (, , , , ). Who donates first unrest here? You can also save your polemical comments for yourself. If it gets serious, it pinches, doesn't it! Don't harass me any more with your petty contradictions. -- Mirzali (mesac) 08:48, 25 Nisane 2013 (UTC)
Its clear that, you dont know what you are talking about. You just try to change users mind. If its an intrigue to report your sysop abuse, then we should leave the project for you. Coz you dont accept any other point of view here. You should learn to be tolerant. We show your mistakes that you can correct yourself but nothing changed. For sure, you and Takabeg do some non-encyclopedic job here. But as i said, i will not waste my time with you. Dont make users to misunderstand, we know what you do, but you tell as its something else.—Gomadapeyam 12:02, 25 Nisane 2013 (UTC)
Boşuna dememişler "cahil ve cühela ile uğraşmak zordur" diye. Ben ne diyorum, Allah'ın kırosu hâlâ neler geveliyor. Tövbe, tövbe! Bayramlık ağzımı açtırdı yine. Sen bizim başımıza bela mısın? Burda aklından zoru ve de mana aleminden yoksun olana yer yoktur. Git kendi çöplüğünde öt, gereksiz yere bizi uğraştırıp vaktimizi alma bizim. -- Mirzali (mesac)
  • Oppose: No need to waste time with discussions of Takabeg anymore. Because he wants to criminalize users. Dont forget, Xosere is a Zaza not you. Therefore, stop to teach Xosere and other Zazas how they should live.--—Gomadapeyam 08:14, 25 Nisane 2013 (UTC)
  • Oppose--George Animal (mesac) 11:37, 25 Nisane 2013 (UTC)
  • Support We should stop political based actions and harassments. Everyone who accepts the conventions of Zazaki Wikipedia is welcome. Zazaki Wikipedia was founded on that we use the Ware/Jacobson alphabet and accept Zazaki as an independent Iranian language. --Asmêno Bêwayir (mesac) 12:53, 26 Nisane 2013 (UTC)
Asmen you totally missed the point here again. You are so out of touch. Anyways, I read an article about your connections with Armenian nationalists. That was a very illuminating. I also heard that you are a very successful womanizer. But anyways, you are so irrelevant now. --Xosere (mesac) 13:10, 26 Nisane 2013 (UTC)
Maybe we will also hear somenthing about your qualities and connections :) If you take such lowbrow sources or bullshit of any people talking about private spheres earnest, then you show your qualities. Öcalan was also always blamed by the state and Turkish fascist beein a "Ermeni uşağı" (Armenian servant) and a womanizer :) --Asmêno Bêwayir (mesac) 13:14, 26 Nisane 2013 (UTC)
To be frank with you, I don't care who you are. To me, you are just a regular average person. Yes, you want to compare yourself with big important personalities. But, who cares? --Xosere (mesac) 14:38, 26 Nisane 2013 (UTC)
I didn't want to compare myself with an bin important or what else personalities; I don't care about it and also about you. I compared the mentality of yours and of those people who want to discredit someone. I'm full of that discussion. We should find a peaceful solution to move on. --Asmêno Bêwayir (mesac) 15:02, 26 Nisane 2013 (UTC)
Please, stop your stupid and silly wars! Since centuries we didn't get any rights 'cause of such stupid fights and divisions. The turkish contributor here named "taka" is promoting every where in kurdish web sites zaza as different people (from kurdish), and when you just have look here : he is promotong now division on zaza, he says dimilki and kirdmancki are not dialects but indepandent languages. So this "taka" is now laughinf on your situation! Alsace38 (mesac) 16:30, 29 Nisane 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Wa Xosere Wikipediya Zazaki ra duri bıbo. Xosere zaf zerar dano Wikipediya Zazaki rê u heta nıka mı faydey xo zi nêdi, Kamo ke Zazaki nêzano u zerar dano, wa bloke bıbo Wikipediya do. Xosere u umbazanê xoyo sazci, ê no proje ra wa duri bıbê. Kamo ke zıwanê Zazaki nêzano u no zıwan ra fam nêkeno, ya wa no zıwan bımuso ya zi wa no Wikipediya ra duri bıbo. İnca cayê Kurdan ya ji cayê rasistan qet niya. Kamo ke sero vurnayışanê kıhanan de ebe çekuyê Kurdki vurinayış keno , wa bloke bıbo. Kamo ke zıwanê ma u piyê cı Zazakiyo u tiya zerar nêdano, wa xoser bıbo Wikipediya Zazaki do. Ma zaf kesi niya tiya de, ma rê peşti zi lazımo. Ackdeals (mesac) 10:04, 27 Nisane 2013 (UTC)
  • Oppose: For me everybody must contribute to this american ansyclopedia. We absolutly don't care which letter we use to describre zazaki. Some people accept to use turkish letters such as "ğ ı ü " somes don't. We must not fight on the alphabet of Jakobson or Bedirxan.... did you know that the zaza people from irak the shabak (100.000) use the soranî alphabet? Archived 2009-02-02 at the Wayback Machine Alsace38 (mesac) 16:30, 29 Nisane 2013 (UTC)

  • Support : Xosere should be removed from Zazaki Wikipedia . He blocking the helpful users such as Takabeg and Ackdeals for no reason. He trying to change the language of Zazaki Wikipedia ( the alphabet of Zazaki Wikipedia is here (Elifba Zazaki) ) and he changing the old articles with his unclear alphabet like as herein []
  • The crimes of Xosere ;
  1. He blocked the helpful users such as Takabeg, Ackdeals.
  2. He doing Vandalizm on Wikipedia, here and here and here . All of this articles are suitable to Wikipedia's rules. But he tried to delete them for no reason.
  3. Zazaish language is a free language according to lingustics but he chaning the Zazaish words with Kurdish language. He ruining the Zazaish Language , here and here
  4. He trying to change writing-system of Zazaki Language here ; he changed name of the USA. According to writing-system of Zazaki Language, the name of USA article should be Dewletê Amerikayê Yewbiyayey but he changed it to Dewletê Yewbiyayeyî yê Amerika. This is not true.
  5. He doing Kurdish racism and he doing racism to his own race Zazas, here this is name of the USA according to writing system of Kurdish language and he changed the name of the USA with his unclear writing-system in Zazaki Wikipedia for making closer to Kurdish. With this way, he trying to ruin the Zazaki language.
All these are just some of the crimes of Xosere. He abuses his sysop. So he should be removed from system operator. Ereas (mesac) 11:13, 6 Hezirane 2013 (UTC) (suckpuppet)
  • Comment: @Ereas. You have zero contribution here and you don't know Zazaki. How do you like us value your opinions? --Xoser (mesac) 11:22, 6 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)
  • Comment:@Ereas, you are a new user but you know Ackdeals and Takabeg were helpful users? :) How can you know so much information about Zazaki wikipedia? Before blaming other users, learn how you should commununicate here. You cant call users Racist etc. Read Wikipediya:Panc UstıniGomadapeyam 11:32, 7 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)

::: Comment: Since first days of 2013, Im following the Zazaki Wikipedia without contribution. So I saw contributions of Takabeg and contributions of Ackdeals and I have informations about them and even I have learned the basic things about Zazaki Langauge. When I have noticed that Xoser disturbing Zazaki Wikipediya and he making unrest on Zazaki Wikipediya I just want to report my opinion about Xoser. By the way. I did not use racist word, I just said that Xosere creating Kurdish racism on Zazaki Wikipedia. But nevertheless, Im really sorry for using racist word. I just wanted to report my opinion. Yours truly.. Ereas (mesac) 17:08, 10 Hezirane 2013 (UTC) (suckpuppet)

  • Oppose Crimes? Wikipedia is not judicatory. Please read What Wikipedia is not carefully.--ÇalakWәрeнaйьш 11:19, 6 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)


  • Support -- Vate (mesac) 20:48, 7 Hezirane 2013 (UTC) (suckpuppet)
Comment:@Vate, your reason? :) —Gomadapeyam 21:24, 7 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)

:: Comment: I have been following for two years diq.wikipedia. I have little time for professional reasons. However, I have read the events here. Up on the alphabet, grammar and word choice of Mirzali is quite right and it is very close to Vate standards. Don't get me wrong, I take no party here. Mirzalis administration is just as unimportant for me and that I have already mentioned somewhere. Xoser however now tries to impose Çewlig-idiom and it may be influenced by Kurdish elements. Even three main dialects of Zazaki are different among themselves. Moreover Kurmanci influence displaced almost Zazaki. This is not an asset to the Zazaki language. Even Vate also uses many Kurmanci words, although there are original Zazaki words for them. -- Vate (mesac) 11:20, 8 Hezirane 2013 (UTC) (suckpuppet)

Comment:Yes of course :) One user is watching from the begining of 2013, another is watching this wikipedia for 2 years. We have many detectives here.—Gomadapeyam 11:19, 11 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)
  • Oppose Takabeg doesn't know Zazaki, but he edited the contents of the articles and created duplications. Xoser was right. Neribij (mesac) 21:25, 7 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)


  • Support : Mazaruni language is very similiar to Zazaki language. I saw that Xoser is exterminating the Zaza language. He should be removed from sysop. زازاندران (mesac) 19:11, 14 Hezirane 2013 (UTC) (suckpuppet)

 Nêvirazîya Xoser (mesac) 08:09, 25 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)

Harassment of Gomada

Stop your harassment and don't spread your lies elsewhere, otherwise I will block you. -- Mirzali 13:45, 25 Nisane 2013 (UTC)

[en] Change to wiki account system and account renaming

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Dema nika aşitî ye

  • Arkadaslar, lütfen birileri yüzünden manipüle olmayin; Her neyse, herkes katkida bulunsun. Ates kes yaparim, küfürleri birakarim lütfen!
  • Mirzali ! Xosere ! Nerbiji ! Asmên ! Lütfen yapmayin, barisin, hepinizin katkisi ilâzim burada, küskünlük yapmayin! Biz yakdilar "haydutlar" dediler, bizi kesdiler katl ediler "terörist" dediler, bizi sürgün kovdular ve "kıro" dediler! Asla ve asla düşmanlarimizin yapdiklarini unutmayin, asla! Alsace38 (mesac) 13:19, 30 Nisane 2013 (UTC)
Xwişka min! Kimsenin kimseye karşı şahsi olarak bir alıp veremediği veya bu yüzden dargınlığı yoktur. En azından benim açımdan bu böyledir. Benim kızdığım şey siyaset üzerinden demagoji ve manipülasyon yapılmasıdır. Zaman zaman kendimi tutamayıp laf etmem de geçmişteki (bilhassa Alevi kesimine olan) haksızlık ve katliamalara yönelik acımdan dolayı söylemişimdir. (Bunda sadece Türklerin parmağı yoktur. İnancımıza ve milletimize yüzyıllardan beridir atılan iftiralarla din adına meşru bir hava yaratılıp, her defasında yakın dönemlere kadar soykırımlar (Dersim, Maraş, Çorum, Sivas vs.) gerçekleşmiştir. Bundan dolayıdır ki benim belirli bir kesime karşı empati ve sempatim olamaz. Ama, yine de ben hiç kimseye karşı şahsi kin ve nefret gütmüyorum, çünkü bu gibi olumsuz tutumlar nefsin duygularıdır ve bu negatif enerji nihayetinde insanın kendi kendisine zarar verir. Neyse, bu şimdi konumuz dışıdır.) Yoksa, bu sanal ortamda (Asmên biraderim dışında) ne kimseyi şahsen yakından tanırım ne de herhangi bir irtibatım vardır kendileriyle. Burda artık tek sorun yaratan Gomada'dan başkası değildir, yani ne Xosere ne Neribij ne de bir başkası...
Regardez, vous m'avez dit si beau, pourquoi êtes-vous venu à l'Europe. Plus et moins nous sommes tous dans la même situation. Nous nous vivons dans un pays étranger. Qu'est-ce que tout ce nationalisme extrême fouillait? Il s'agit des langues individuelles et non sur la politique ou la religion, etc. Cordialement! -- Mirzali (mesac) 17:27, 30 Nisane 2013 (UTC)
Tı senin kindaro Alsace38 ? kindar mebe. Zaten Wikipediya şıma de zaf kindaran esto. Tiya cayê kin u nefret, cayê dışmaniye niyo. Tiya de cayê Xosere, Nerbiji u Gomada çıniyo, çunki ê kindarê. Raveri Tırki bımuse u bado qısey ke Ackdeals (mesac) 17:37, 30 Nisane 2013 (UTC)

The default position of the "edit" link in page section headers is going to change soon. The "edit" link will be positioned adjacent to the page header text rather than floating opposite it.

Section edit links will be to the immediate right of section titles, instead of on the far right. If you're an editor of one of the wikis which already implemented this change, nothing will substantially change for you; however, scripts and gadgets depending on the previous implementation of section edit links will have to be adjusted to continue working; however, nothing else should break even if they are not updated in time.

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Ideas to do this all the way to 2009 at least. It is often difficult to track which of several potential section edit links on the far right is associated with the correct section, and many readers and anonymous or new editors may even be failing to notice section edit links at all, since they read section titles, which are far away from the links.

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Astengkerdişê Ackdeals

  • Comment Zaza olan benim, ben kendi dilimin Wikipedisinde engelleniyorum, hem de kürdolar tarafıdan.Ackdeals
Engellenmedin, saçmalama! Sadece birdaki sefere küfür etme. Zazalarin çocu kendini türk hissediyorlar, çoguda tarikatci yadasa atatirkocu. Erdogan gemi gönderirken, geminin içindeki çogu zaza (bingol elazig diyabakir) seriatcilaridi. Biliyorsun demi? Zazalar kendini kürtmü zazami türkmü hisediyorlar? Sorsana, ezici cogu türküz diyor!?--Alsace38 (mesac) 20:34, 11 Gulane 2013 (UTC)
Li gorî min, li vir herkes lazim e, em alikarî ya herkes dixwazin. Ackdeal kifûr kirr tamam. Lê em însan in, kurd in, serbilind in; Ez dixwazim ko hûn sansa 2'emîn bidin! Bi can bi xwîn em bi te ra ne Zimanê kurdî! Alsace38 (mesac) 20:12, 11 Gulane 2013 (UTC)

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Co-existense as basis for peace

First we need a neutral start page that doesn't favor any alphabet or writing. This start page should only contain the welcome-box in two alphabets with further informations. Then we must integrate a button like in (for Arabic or Latin letter), with this button one should can switch between the Vate- and the Zazaki-Institute-Frankfurt writing. --Umut Akkoç (mesac) 17:16, 31 Gulane 2013 (UTC)

Bravo Akkoç! I want to propound this idea. I suppurt this idea.--ÇalakWәрeнaйьш 17:28, 31 Gulane 2013 (UTC)
Thanks bra, I'm neither for the Bedirxan nor for the Jacobson-Alphabet. I self support the KAL-writing. But the authors here want to write in these alphabets, therefore we must provide portals in two writings.
You are right. Both Bedirxan and Jacobson-Alphabet are based on Turkish alphabet. Letters ş, ğ, ẍ, ... are not standard but KAL writing system is based on International ISO 8859-1 Standards and is very good for the purpose of communicating via the Internet and IT.--ÇalakWәрeнaйьш 18:11, 31 Gulane 2013 (UTC)
We can put a choose for KAL too.No mesajo bêîmza yê Umut Akkoç(î) (werênayîş • îştiraq) yo.
Yes, it is a great idea.--ÇalakWәрeнaйьш 18:42, 31 Gulane 2013 (UTC)
No I think it is a bad idea. There are millions of articles to write. You can create as many articles as you guys want. Probably you guys won't write anyways. Instead of discussion endlessly, please write some article. --Xoser (mesac) 20:36, 31 Gulane 2013 (UTC)

Trademark discussion

Hi, apologies for posting this in English, but I wanted to alert your community to a discussion on Meta about potential changes to the Wikimedia Trademark Policy. Please translate this statement if you can. We hope that you will all participate in the discussion; we also welcome translations of the legal team’s statement into as many languages as possible and encourage you to voice your thoughts there. Please see the Trademark practices discussion (on Meta-Wiki) for more information. Thank you! --Mdennis (WMF) (talk)

Bedelnayışê alfabey, Lecê vurnayışi, Vandalizm

@Mirzali: What is the purpose of this page? Reporting any change in wikipedia?! Please use page talk instead of unsettling wikipedia by reporting any change here.--ÇalakWәрeнaйьш 18:08, 30 Gulane 2013 (UTC)

No, I changed older infobox to newer version.--ÇalakWәрeнaйьш 12:44, 30 Gulane 2013 (UTC)
No, you have begun this edit war. Only one template is enough, Şablon:Infobox Kitab is better and more beautiful.--ÇalakWәрeнaйьш 13:11, 30 Gulane 2013 (UTC)
I recommend you to read Assume good faith and Vandalism. Any change that you don't like it is Vandalism? Please stop unsettling wikipedia by these edits here.--ÇalakWәрeнaйьш 18:17, 30 Gulane 2013 (UTC)

  • Support yeah Karber:Mirzali true saying. Calak is doing vandalism on Zazaki Wikipedia and deleting the templates , for example ; [here]. Ereas (mesac) 10:14, 6 Hezirane 2013 (UTC) (suckpuppet)
In fact Mirzali has changed article alphabet, see here.--ÇalakWәрeнaйьш 07:40, 6 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)
What an original statement! Can you please also view the date? It was four years ago. We are talking about today. Please don't twist the matter. -- Mirzali (mesac) 09:09, 6 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)

Warning of Sockpuppetry and Meatpuppetry

I would like to remind suckpuppets and meatpuppets that; if you dont wanna be blocked forever, stop the game which you try.

  • Karber:Mirzali (Karber:Vate, Karber:Miraz)
  • Karber:Ackdeals (Karber:Tarakayska, Karber:Ereas, Karber:زازاندران)
  • Karber:Umut Akkoç (Karber:Omid V.) (You didnt interfere voting-disscusions yet, but i wanted to remind you)

So, my dear friends. You should know that, its a reason to be blocked when you create more accounts and use them for your POV. 1, 2 You are responsible for your actions.—Gomadapeyam 22:27, 7 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)


  • I've warned you to stop the game, but you did not care. You used different accounts to Create an illusion of support. Ereas, زازاندران, Vate Therefore, it's time to report you on checkuser. Accusing;
  1. Creating new accounts to vote
  2. Reviving old unused accounts (sometimes referred to as sleepers) and presenting them as different users.—Gomadapeyam 21:49, 14 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)
  • Support: Amazing that all these people coming out nowhere have the same exact goal. What is the probability of that? And they just say similar things. --Xoser (mesac) 04:50, 15 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)
  • Support There was no fear if these accounts are not suckpuppets.No mesajo bêîmza yê Calak(î) (werênayîş • îştiraq) yo.
09:15, 15 Hezirane 2013
Comment - There is an almost internal war in Turkey, and what are you all doing here instead? This is very sad! -- Mirzali (mesac) 20:58, 15 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)
An almost internal war in Turkey does not concern this Wikipedia or this issue. --Xoser (mesac) 21:16, 15 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)
  • Support These may be the same people. Neribij (mesac) 17:02, 17 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)


Reydayiş: 22 Hezirane 2013 - 25 Hezirane 2013

Steward has checked those accounts above. According to checkuser;

  • Mirzali, Vate and Miraz seem to be the same (Result: Positive)
  • Ackdeals, Ereas, زازاندران are likely the same. (Result: Positive)
  • Tarakayska is not related to any of them.

As you know, suckpuppetry is forbidden and i have warned the users. Unfortunately, they didnt care. Therefore, the blocking should be as below—Gomadapeyam 12:12, 22 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)

1. Karber:Mirzali, 6 months (coz, he was active for a long time and we can give him a second chance)

  • SupportGomadapeyam 12:16, 22 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Xoser (mesac) 17:37, 22 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)
  • Support--George Animal (mesac) 18:03, 22 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)
  • Support--Azadi (mesac) 19:04, 22 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)
  • Comment nê hesaba racnêse nê karberi do şıre fına sexte hesab akerê.Pêya aşiti bıkerê.--Tarakayska (mesac) 20:44, 22 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)
  • Comment Vate and Miraz are not me. However, the two users are two of my friends from Turkey. I have been using for years everywhere only one user name. (Vate û Miraz ez niyan, ema nê herdımêna karberi Tırkiya ra embazê mınê. Ez çend serrio ke her ca de yew name gurenenan.) -- Mirzali (mesac) 21:54, 22 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)
  • Support He was admin formerly, and he knows politics, this lawless practice is not acceptable.--ÇalakWәрeнaйьш 13:01, 23 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)
  • Comment Şıma senê isbat kenê ke Mirzali u karberê bini (Vate, Miraz) yewê? Eger ke werte de isbat çıniyo, tenya itham u iddia esta, şıma nêşenê hesabê ey bloke kerê. Kilıtkerdış peyser bıgêrê, şıma rê zehmet! --Asmêno Bêwayir (mesac) 08:35, 25 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)

2. Karber:Vate, an expiry time of indefinite (Mirzali's sockpuppet)

  • SupportGomadapeyam 12:16, 22 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)
  • Support According to Wikipedia general policy, Sock-puppets are automatically blocked. Xoser (mesac) 17:37, 22 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)
  • Support--George Animal (mesac) 18:03, 22 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)
  • Support--Azadi (mesac) 19:04, 22 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)
  • Support sexte hesaban rê na wiki dê ca çıniyo—-Tarakayska (mesac) 20:44, 22 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)
  • Support --ÇalakWәрeнaйьш 13:01, 23 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)

3. Karber:Miraz, an expiry time of indefinite (Mirzali's sockpuppet)

  • SupportGomadapeyam 12:16, 22 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)
  • Support According to Wikipedia general policy, Sock-puppets are automatically blocked. Xoser (mesac) 17:37, 22 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)
  • Support--George Animal (mesac) 18:03, 22 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)
  • Support--Azadi (mesac) 19:04, 22 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)
  • Support sexte hesaban rê na wiki dê ca çıniyo—-Tarakayska (mesac) 20:44, 22 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)
  • Support --ÇalakWәрeнaйьш 13:01, 23 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)

4. Karber:Ackdeals, 1 year (he has been blocked before, but maybe we can give a third chance)

  • SupportGomadapeyam 12:16, 22 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Xoser (mesac) 17:37, 22 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)
  • Support--George Animal (mesac) 18:03, 22 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Trem 1 serr tayn nîya?--Azadi (mesac) 19:03, 22 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)
  • Comment nê hesaba racnêse nê karberi do şıre fına sexte hesab akerê.Pêya aşiti bıkerê.--Tarakayska (mesac) 20:44, 22 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)
  • Support --ÇalakWәрeнaйьш 13:01, 23 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)

5. Karber:زازاندران, an expiry time of indefinite (Ackdeals' sockpuppet)

  • SupportGomadapeyam 12:16, 22 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)
  • Support According to Wikipedia general policy, Sock-puppets are automatically blocked. Xoser (mesac) 17:37, 22 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)
  • Support--George Animal (mesac) 18:03, 22 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)
  • Support--Azadi (mesac) 19:04, 22 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)
  • Support --ÇalakWәрeнaйьш 13:01, 23 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)

6. Karber:Ereas, an expiry time of indefinite (Ackdeals' sockpuppet)

  • SupportGomadapeyam 12:16, 22 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)
  • Support According to Wikipedia general policy, Sock-puppets are automatically blocked. Xoser (mesac) 17:37, 22 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)
  • Support--George Animal (mesac) 18:03, 22 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)
  • Support--Azadi (mesac) 19:04, 22 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)
  • Support sexte hesaban rê na wiki dê ca çıniyo—-Tarakayska (mesac) 20:44, 22 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)
  • Support --ÇalakWәрeнaйьш 13:01, 23 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)

 Virazîya--Xoser (mesac) 07:39, 25 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)

X!'s Edit Counter

(Sorry for writing in English. You can translate the proposal.)

Should X!'s edit counter retain the opt-in requirement? Your input is strongly encouraged. Voice your input here.——cyberpower ChatAutomation 04:20, 23 Hezirane 2013 (UTC)

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Universal Language Selector will be enabled on 2013-07-09

On July 9, 2013, Universal Language Selector (ULS) will be enabled on this wiki. The ULS provides a flexible way to configure and deliver language settings like interface language, fonts, and input methods (keyboard mappings). Making it available here is the last phase of making ULS available on all Wikimedia wikis.

Please read the announcement on Meta-Wiki for more information. Siebrand 12:20, 4 Temuz 2013 (UTC) (via Global message delivery).

Pywikipedia is migrating to git

Hello, Sorry for English but It's very important for bot operators so I hope someone translates this. Pywikipedia is migrating to Git so after July 26, SVN checkouts won't be updated If you're using Pywikipedia you have to switch to git, otherwise you will use out-dated framework and your bot might not work properly. There is a manual for doing that and a blog post explaining about this change in non-technical language. If you have question feel free to ask in mw:Manual talk:Pywikipediabot/Gerrit, mailing list, or in the IRC channel. Best Amir (via Global message delivery). 13:05, 23 Temuz 2013 (UTC)

VisualEditor and your Wikipedia

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The Wikimedia Foundation will soon turn on VisualEditor for all users, all the time on your Wikipedia. Right now your Wikipedia does not have any local documents on VisualEditor, and we hope that your community can change that. To find out about how you can help with translations visit the TranslationCentral for VisualEditor and read the easy instructions on bringing information to your Wikipedia. The User Guide and the FAQ are very important to have in your language.

We want to find out as much as we can from you about VisualEditor and how it helps your Wikipedia, and having local pages is a great way to start. We also encourage you to leave feedback on Mediawiki where the community can offer ideas, opinions, and point out bugs that may still exist in the software that need to be reported to Bugzilla. If you are able to speak for the concerns of others in English on MediaWiki or locally I encourage you to help your community to be represented in this process.

If you can help translate the user interface for VisualEditor to your language, you can help with that as well. Translatewiki has open tasks for translating VisualEditor. A direct link to translate the user interface is here. You can see how we are doing with those translations here. You need an account on Translatewiki to translate. This account is free and easy to create.

If we can help your community in any way with this process, please let me know and I will do my best to assist your Wikipedia with this |exciting development. You can contact me on my meta talk page or by email. You can also contact Patrick Earley for help with translations and documents on Mediawiki. We look forward to working with you to bring the VisualEditor experience to your Wikipedia! Keegan (WMF) (talk) 19:00, 30 Temuz 2013 (UTC)

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HTTPS for users with an account

Greetings. Starting on August 21 (tomorrow), all users with an account will be using HTTPS to access Wikimedia sites. HTTPS brings better security and improves your privacy. More information is available at m:HTTPS.

If HTTPS causes problems for you, tell us on bugzilla, on IRC (in the #wikimedia-operations channel) or on meta. If you can't use the other methods, you can also send an e-mail to

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about Turkıstane Şarki, Eyalete Muhtarie Sincan u Uygur, Şu Çılgın Türkler, Ni Tırke Gec and Tırk articles

Why you deleting my articles for no reason ? I have added many references for Tırk article but you deleted, You deleted Turkıstane Şarki, , Eyalete Muhtarie Sincan u Uygur, Şu Çılgın Türkler and Ni Tırke Gec articles. Zazaki is not offical language, so Zazaki has not an writing-system. Also Zazaki language shows many differences (varies) by regions. So I create the articles as our dialect. And I pay attention to write with a clear and understandable language. You havent right to delete my articles. Vame (mesac) 11:11, 18 Keşkelun 2013 (UTC)

You cannot keep writing stub articles. You can't just write two sentences and call it an article. We deleted 8,000 articles for that reason. This is the policy. You were the same person putting all that short stubs before. You were banned altogether permanently for that reason. You are sockpupeting again. And you know this is not good.
  • Second your even short stubs articles are even written from Turkish nationalist view. So therefore, they cannot be considered encyclopedic content. Xoser (mesac) 15:19, 18 Keşkelun 2013 (UTC)
No, you dont have right to delete an article for three or five sentences. There is no a rule like this. I dont segregate the Turks, Im free to create article about everything.You do not have right to ban me and delete my articles. You are not

proprietor of Wikipedia. If I write the articles from Turkish nationalist view, prove it than. Two times I have created Şu Çılgın Türkler (a book of Turgut Özakman), but you deleted all of the two articles. I think you doing anti-Turkism on Zazaki Wikipedia. This is not good. Vame (mesac) 09:31, 20 Keşkelun 2013 (UTC)

We deleted 8,000 of your stubs here in this Wiki. You are using a different name but doing the same thing again. --Xoser (mesac) 18:24, 21 Keşkelun 2013 (UTC)
Me ? Do you know me ? I havent any information about you. I just want to create articles and develop the language. I again will create the articles and I will add more information if you want it. Vame (mesac) 10:59, 23 Keşkelun 2013 (UTC)
@Vame: Everybody knows who you are. Therefore, stop to waste users' time!—Gomadapeyam 20:50, 23 Keşkelun 2013 (UTC)
That's enough Xoser, you dont have to delete my articles. Dont make it again! You delete my articles for no reason. Vame (mesac) 08:42, 28 Keşkelun 2013 (UTC)
Request for consultation on this community logo

First, I’d like to apologize for the English. If you can, please help to translate this for other members of your community.

The legal team at the Wikimedia Foundation would greatly appreciate your input on the best way to manage the "community logo" (pictured here) to best balance protection of the projects with community support. Accordingly, they have created a “request for consultation” on Meta where they set out briefly some of the issues to be considered and the options that they perceive. Your input would be invaluable in helping guide them in how best to serve our mission.

Thank you! --Mdennis (talk) (via the Global message delivery system). 02:16, 24 Keşkelun 2013 (UTC) (wrong page? You can fix it.)


Notifications inform you of new activity that affects you -- and let you take quick action.

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Notifications will inform users about new activity that affects them on this wiki in a unified way: for example, this new tool will let you know when you have new talk page messages, edit reverts, mentions or links -- and is designed to augment (rather than replace) the watchlist. The Wikimedia Foundation's editor engagement team developed this tool (code-named 'Echo') earlier this year, to help users contribute more productively to MediaWiki projects.

We're now getting ready to bring Notifications to almost all other Wikimedia sites, and are aiming for a 22 October deployment, as outlined in this release plan. It is important that notifications is translated for all of the languages we serve.

There are three major points of translation needed to be either done or checked:

Please let us know if you have any questions, suggestions or comments about this new tool. For more information, visit this project hub and this help page. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 18:25, 4 Tişrino Verên 2013 (UTC)

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Speak up about the trademark registration of the Community logo.

Hi all,

Please join the consultation about the Community logo that represents Meta-Wiki: m:Community Logo/Request for consultation.

This community consultation was commenced on September 24. The following day, two individuals filed a legal opposition against the registration of the Community logo.

The question is whether the Wikimedia Foundation should seek a collective membership mark with respect to this logo or abandon its registration and protection of the trademark.

We want to make sure that everyone get a chance to speak up so that we can get clear direction from the community. We would therefore really appreciate the community's help in translating this announcement from English so that everyone is able to understand it.

Thanks, Geoff & Yana 19:57, 8 Tişrino Verên 2013 (UTC)

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